Thursday, June 17, 2010

Melissa Sawiki of Albion, Michigan - YOU ARE BUSTED!

Two days ago I got an email from a reader whom on request, will stay unnamed. She sent me an ad that just by itself, would result in me having an apocalyptic fit. 


Then she sent me more info. 


At the time of writing this (Wed evening) I currently have somewhere around 30 individual Chrome Tab pages open, all in 'researching' this .... person. 


Thats Melissa Sawiki, there with her tongue out trying to lick her fiancée. She's about 18 years old, engaged to the guy you see peeking out of the cropped picture there, lives in Albion, Michigan, and according to her twitter page, is horse obsessed!!!! mustang breeder!!! twilight/vampire obsessed.  The Mustang Breeder Part is a decent enough clue - though its like a very small hair in the bigger scope of the entire murder case. 


I am going to do my best to sort through all of this so it makes sense to you. I will also warn you, this may end up being very long - I will do my best to keep it from running into novel length, but there is TON of info I found, and want to share. 


The Craigslist ad (the text of which will be green) that was sent to me was a sale ad for three horses. The highlight was that the mare had just delivered, and she was already trying to sell the mare. I am not even sure If I can post a screenshot of the ad because the ad is HUGE. I'll copy the text over though. The entire mood of the ad was "get them the f**k out of here". Ya, that sounds like a horse obsessed!!!! person, doesn't it? But thats not where this story ends. 


Heck, it hasn't even started yet.


There are also Horseclicks.com ads, which will look like this.


This is Cyclone, one of the three. He's a black, (Now 5) but is currently being advertised as a 4 year old. He is of course, a BLM mustang stallion. 


To the left it shows him with a saddle and bridle. The tacked up picture was taken from the CL ad, and off of another ad.  The picture on the right was taken from here. In each ad, (there are several) the price is never the same. $500 in one, up to $700 for another.  


this wild mustang is gentle sweet and the fastest of the horses we have, he is only 4! he still needs to grow! but will make beautiful babies! for 150$ we do not ship bring your mare today! he is ready and raring to go! email for info, momoluv08@yahoo.com or call 517 - 1122, he is a BLM mustang, and you can see him here at http://www.myspace.com/mustangatstud also have a mare for sale! seen in other ad! you can ask for more pictures aswell, he does have a red tint in his hair, and a scar that turned red, but otherwise he is a black stallion!!! better yet a Mustang stallion!!! for those who would rather start a mustang baby from foal then a wild yearling!!! (these r alot harder to handle!) we have broodmares and we may sell babies, or except trades for breeding, or trade horses! ive got an adorable little bay mustang! that i could consider trade!!! I AM NOW SELLING CYCLONE FOR 500$ HE IS IN TRAINING AND GREEN BROKE. COME GET HIM NOW! 1ST 250$ DOWN PAYMENT TAKES HIM. price only goes up from here! HE THROWS BLUE ROAN FOALS!!!! OR will consider trade for gelding or mare thats broke to ride (horse or large pony) maybe green still. must meet requirements: 13'3plus hhs only. under the age of 16. NO 19plus years. may consider 16-18yr olds. depends. BIG PLUS! will trade both mustangs for a good decent kidsafe horse around 14'2-15hhs thanks!!! NO HALFINGERS NO ACCEPTIONS!!!! WE DO NOT LIKE THEM. THEY ARE WORK HORSES ONLY. MAKE ME AN OFFER!!!! BABIES NOT FOR SALE!!! must go within 2 weeks


I'm not even going to bother blocking out her email. That text was from the same link as the head shot above. I tried to edit that ad from horseclicks, but couldn't decide what to cut out, it was all equally nauseating.



Cyclone (cyclonic destruction)- black stud. blue roan genes. green broke. asking 500$ comes with his papers and possibly a halter. make me an offer!!! he is a proven stud and one of his babies is a blue roan! 
hes 14'2hhs and 4yrs old! very gentle not mean and my 8yr old niece and her friends are always leading him around and grooming him!!! not an aggressive stud! he must go within 2 weeks! or i take him to auction. 


So, just between the two ads, you can see she can't really keep her stories straight. She's all over the place. She's got a third ad up for him here. In one he's listed as a 2006 foal, in another he's 2005? But she's got his papers!  


Oh, and for the record - being able to impregnate a whole 3 mares does NOT make him a 'proven stud'!!! Aeeyyyuppp.... cause what we really need is more fugly mustang and/or half mustang babies, right?


There is, buried deep within that horseclicks ad, a link to a myspace page. Myspace usually drives me insane, but I had to look on this one. If you don't wish to, I don't blame you. All of the text on the page is size 1 text. I of course copied it into a word document, and made it a much more readable size - oh, I really wish I hadn't. Its CYCLONE's Myspace page. This is what she put for his "about me".








·         interseted in making many pretty babies and carrying the legend on!!!
·         no time to see any,
·         ? whats television?,
·         i only read the things that our at our farm like the barn and such.
·         the BLM becuase with out them i wouldnt be here! for those who dont know: BLM stands for Burea of Land Management! they save wild mustangs!
·         Status: Single
·         Here for: Dating, Friends
·         Hometown: WILD
·         Orientation: Straight
·         Body type: 5' 0" / Body builder
·         Zodiac Sign: Capricorn
·         Children: Expecting
·         Occupation: Breeding
·         Income: Less than $30,000  (Ok, me in - why would a horse need an income?)


The Craigslist ad is disturbing though - the 'or I take him to auction' should be a huge, glaring, giant, massive red flag. This is Michigan, folks, a hop, skip, and a jump up to Canada - where Horse Slaughter IS legal. For some reason, I don't see Cyclone putting THAT on his Myspace page! I *wonder* why?

Another ad for the stallion:
i  have a black mustang at stud, his fee is 75$ for this limited time only. he can be seen athttp://www.myspace.com/mustangatstud and i can be contacted at that or at www.momoluv08@yahoo.com thnx!!! he is a all black mustang stud titled & papered to me he has red tints in his mane and tail. and has a scar on his shoulder from his captured days, its red. aswell. an lastly he has a perfect white cresant moon shaped marking on forehead (a star) he stands 14hh at 3yrs old. he is extremly fast for those barrel racers and hes very smart!!!! and has the cutest baby face with the sofest velvet fur!!! contact for more info!!! thnx so much ***located in Albion, MI*** may trade breedings for iteams wanted: driving buggy (for a 12hh donkey) harness set. wooden poles ( to extend corral) tack things, need bridals bits, saddles, blankets, saddle racks, brushes ext. thnx again!!!!


As crazy as the stud makes her sound - thats not even the WORST of this. Thats just the appetizer to the main course. 


I was sent a series of emails upon my request (thank you oodles for them, you ladies know who you are) and my jaw just completely dropped to the floor like it *NEVER* has before - and folks, I see a TON of crap in my in-box. Sometimes I think I should post 2x a day just to keep up with it all. 


So, fugly mustang half broke "proven stud" up there, who stands a very good chance of one day being dinner on somebody's plate overseas, was bred to the bay mare shown below. 



Twisted Ellegance-Twist- bay and white mare. very gentle will be an easy breaker. shes scared and shy of some people a man beat her so she cowers from men and likes children and young adults better then adult men. 14'3-15hhs tall and 4yrs old. does not come with halter, but comes with papers. she stays until she has her baby and then next day shes gone. im asking 300$ for her. please offer. she doesnt leave here until she foals and foal doesnt go with her! no acceptions.
it would be nice to get these guys good home together!!!! someone who wants to put a little mustang blood in there breeding programs. these guys are pure mustang! bought as yearlings.... 









Bay mare is called Twisted Elegance, or Twist. Cyclone is standing next to her, and the silver dapple pony on her other side I'll get to in a minute. Twist has had a bit of drama this week. If you look closely, you can see a bit of a large belly on her. Thats the baby from when Melissa decided that those two mustangs needed to make another mustang! YEA!!








This is usually the part where I would say 'lets hope that the foal doesn't inherit those front legs on the mare' - but you know what, I can't. 


When the same ladies that alerted me to this ad contacted Melissa, they got an answer back that nobody expected. 


The craigslist ad was posted 2010-06-14, 10:25AM EDT. Below is the series of emails back and forth between our readers and Melissa, who apparently goes by Momo? Please note that I am NOT editing out a single thing, save for emails and identities. Pay attention to the time stamps on the emails themselves. Red is Melissa, Blue is our Reader.

Folks, I am in the process of writing a novel in my 'spare time'. I couldn't Make This Stuff Up, even for the book!


dateMon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:24 PM
subjectRe: Mare for sale


foal is miscarred! and its her 1st foal wtf? u want her?


dateMon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:38 PM
subjectRe: Mare for sale
Your ad was posted as of 10.25AM today and is written as if the foal hasn't been born... So, the mare miscarried today??

dateMon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:44 PM

no she must have sometime last week. were making her drop it here so we cant get sued. and she must go asap so she dont get pregnant again since no one wants either


dateMon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:45 PM

I am confused... If she miscarried last week, why did you state at 10.25AM today that she was pregnant?


dateMon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:50 PM

becuz she is! with a dead baby! wtf either u want her or ur wasting my god dam time


dateMon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:53 PM

Has a vet confirmed the foal is dead?


dateMon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:55 PM

yes


dateMon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:56 PM

Can I get the name of the vet so I can discuss what the mare will need? Its in my best interest to know what the situation is if I bring her home.


dateMon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:02 PM

no. ur wasting my time. im NOT GIVING HER A WAY. besides vet arent aloud to discuss that sort of thing with strangers and im not releasing u my info


dateMon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:08 PM

Um, actually I never asked for her to be giving away to me. Now you're accusing. What I asked for is the ability to get a better understanding of the mare's medical condition, since having a dead foal inside is NOT healthy, so I know what kind of expense could be expected. And, yes, vets can discuss with the owners permission.


You obviously are more interested in the money than you are the welfare of the animal. Shame on you.


You know, sometimes is so much fun to a) have once been a skip-tracer,  b) know how to use google, c) have a husband who used to be a private investigator.


Melissa, you didn't NEED to give anyone your info, cause YOU FREAKING posted it everywhere on the net. It took me literally 30 minutes to find her phone number, address, what high school she went to, when she graduated, her cross country awards from high school, ads for 'rare beagles'(WTF?) here and here, more ads for show bunnies, her twitter page, already mentioned the boyfriend on myspace - I mean, seriously, shall I go on here? 


If you pull crap like what you are doing with this mare, you will get found out. 


What I am reading from that mess is simply that she wants to dump the mare on someone, without ANY questions being asked, to the first person that will take her. She's proven that if you ask questions that need to be asked, she will a) start throwing accusations and b) suddenly decide that you don't get the horse. 


This is NOT a responsible horse owner. This is as far away from a responsible horse owner as you can possibly get - and I think Antarctica is too close.


(link to full ad) Twisted Ellegance will not be ready until her baby is weaned (6months?) but is up for sale and i can give you a few numbers to great studs including a palomino piant stud. she is a blm mustang with a bad past. not broke. gorgoues coloration! 5yr old, very sweet, very timid. wants to learn but scared. very pretty mare would make nice trail horse or brood mare she is tri colored bay! (white, bay, and black) some brindel in her face and legs. she needs one on one time in a round pen or arena for about a week and i bet you could have her broke! or call me and ill come break her. her price is 400$ and will go up to 500$ if i re breed her! ill hold her for 250$ aswell. or may talk on just holding her for cheaper. come out and see this gal today! refrences and a home visit to your place required! i dont want her beat again. her old family beat her trying to break her. they killed the gelding she came with and she was near death when i bought her off them. shes back up to healthy wieght and never offered to kick or bite. very SWEET!!! will eat out of your hand. FAST FOR BARRELS! call or email today! 517 - 1122 or 517 - 0031 also another picture of her is on my studs add, he is also for sale, his name is Cyclone. price is OBO WILL TRADE FOR BROKE OR GREEN BROKE HORSE OR LARGE PONY. (13'3hh plus only) under 16yrs of age please!!! may consider slightly older NO 19plus years old!!! NO HALFINGERS NO ACCEPTIONS!!!! WE DO NOT LIKE THEM. THEY ARE WORK HORSES ONLY. SHE IS DUE IN 2 WEEKS! BABY STAYS. WE BOTTLE FEED! OFFER PLEASE WE NEED HER GONE!!! BABY NOT FOR SALE!!!!! 


Of course the baby's not for sale - cause the baby is freakin' DEAD!


Another email, not from the same woman that was in the above emails, but we'll call this lady a "concerned horse owner": 
















This is an email that was sent from the seller to a friend when she politely reminded her that all horses in MI have to sold with a halter.







Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 10:50:56 AM Subject: Re: horses needs to go within 2 weeks!!! - $500 (Albion)
good luck getting a halter on that mare. ill have to kill her first. not joking. shes horse meat probably. since no one wants the damed horse. and the stud. hes a looker and green broke he has a chance and the pony definelty does. and i have been sold plenty of horses without a halter...








The mare in question is the same bay mustang mare that she HERSELF wrote "never offered to kick or bite" and "very SWEET!!! will eat out of your hand".

Seriously? Can you believe this? 

YET MORE ADS. This one has horses that she's not mentioned anywhere else - lets hope they got out! 

[Edit, on second glance, I don't think all of those horses listed are hers, just all from the same general area.]

There's so much more. I don't have all of the emails sent between her and some other potential buyers, but I have a pretty good idea that she was like this with just about everyone.


Silver-also i have a pony (kid safe) bombproof. 675$ firm. he is 12hhs tall and 13yrs old. silver dappled with flaxen mane and tail! he is been there done that show, trail, traffic, parade, therapy pony!!! the top notch pony and 5 stars for your kids safety! comes with bit bridle and red halter seen in pictures. he is a GELDING! NOT A MARE!!!! 









Of Course I have to post up this picture of the pony.... 

*sigh* 

Double, bareback, no helmets - at LEAST the pony is being led. Should read the horseclicks text though, more of the same idiotic promoting of her mustang stallion for sale. If you look through the pictures of the pony she has up - in one of them, in the background, if you look closely, you'll see she has a donkey as well. 

There's also Hurricane, the appaloosa gelding - who in one ad she wants to lease out - not sell, and another where *Surprise* he IS up for sale!  If you actually read them both, she keeps saying over and over that he really is 17hh tall - but won't come with papers, cause he's not registered - so "DON'T ASK"! She actually says just that in the ad for him. She doesn't have Hurricane listed on the Craigslist ad, but he's everywhere else she's got horses listed. Gods help the person that leases him and has to deal with HER daily (the lease requires him to stay on her ranch).

Oh, and we can't forget Mieko, the Paso Fino "Grade / No Papers" Gelding. Link. He's also the horse she pictures herself nuzzling up next to on her myspace page. 
STALLION MUST GO!!! SO MUST THE PONY! BRINGING IN ANOTHER PONY WHICH IS A MARE DON'T WANT BRED!!!! 

call 517 - 9790 asap to come see and check them all out. or email. pictures on horseclicks and on craigslist i have no more so please dont ask!
all horses in pictures are for sale! 
limited internet access. ask for melissa when you call please and leave your name and nuber and reasons for calling! or else i cant call you back!!!







There are so many things going on in these ads that I literally could NOT address everything. Training issues, saftey issues, flat out dumbshit stuff, and thats not even addressing HER ATTITUDE about the whole situation!

Melissa - You are seriously one of the most heartless, ignorant, uneducated morons I've seen in a LONG time. You graduated high school yet you still write like a 2nd grader with 2nd grade spelling and grammar? There is NO excuse for that, NONE whatsoever. 

You claim to care for your horses, but all I can see is someone who really doesn't give one rats ass about them. Your statement about sending your PRIZE mustang stallion through the auction sealed that nail down into your coffin for me. They are all crappy, fugly, conformational TRAIN WRECKS that should NEVER, EVER BE BRED. 

Your idiotic statement about not wanting another horse bred? 

Have you heard of something called a FENCE? You claim to have vets that will come see your horses, have you ever considered something called GELDING? Gelding's don't care about breeding mares. Oh, some of them will still give it the old college try, but after a few minutes they usually tend to give up and opt instead for a good mutual grooming session with said mare. You have created YOUR OWN Problem here, one that you resort to threatening to DUMP your horses for meat prices to solve. 

You know EXACTLY where they will end up, as evidenced by your own words. Your mare, whom on one hand you call sweet, BUT on the other hand to even get a halter on her at all, you'd have to KILL HER, is evidence enough for anyone with eyes. You, and others like you, are the very reason that we have the issues in this country that we do in just simply trying to KEEP our horses from becoming dinner.

I am sending this blog link to everyone I know, asking them to read it and re-post it. Your lack of honesty, your lack of caring (uh, dead stillborn foal still in its mothers belly that you are still claiming is ALIVE in some emails? Yep, they exist...), and your general attitude will come back on you threefold, and karma really is the BIGGEST Bitch of all, and she shows NO mercy. 

So which is it on the foal? Is the foal dead or not? Has the foal been delivered or not? When? Why won't you simply tell the truth on the matter? Why won't you give your vet's information to potential buyers - so you can get rid of the mare like you say you need to over and over again? What exactly are you trying to hide here? There's proof that you have given multiple answers to multiple people on these very questions. 

Do you even realize how difficult it is to bottle feed a foal? Have you ever done it before? Do you realize what a training NIGHTMARE bottle fed foals usually are? They rarely, if ever, respect boundaries of space, pressure, and think humans are horses to play with, bite, rear up on, and kick out at. Is this what you want your foal to become - IF IT ACTUALLY LIVES?

Oh, and btw, just exactly what the hell is your problem with Haflingers? They are NOT JUST working horses, and I can dig up an entire mess of people that will argue to the death otherwise. "Haffies" are some of the sweetest, gentlest, kindest, and honest little horses on earth. Not only are they GREAT with kids, they are strong enough for most adults to ride too!

You know what, never mind on the Haflinger thing. They wouldn't want YOU as an owner anyways, for fear they'd become a sandwich!



The reader's intention in sending this all to me was that hopefully someone out there will be able to get these poor horses out of her hands before they all follow the 'wyld black stallion' to Canada!


In her words, as a final comment to this total disaster of a train wreck waiting to happen, after getting even more conflicting emails on whether the foal was born, alive or not, and when it was supposedly born:



Hi,
If you're willing sell the mare in foal as of the 5th of of having foaled,
you're ignorant and have not business keeping horses. If you want to be sure
the foal receives not only proper nutrition but also upbringing and learning
how to be a horse, then you will either keep the mare until the foal is of
proper age to be weaned, or sell together. Please reconsider your ad and
save face with your horse and fellow horse people.



____________________________________________________________________


I want to add this on to the post. Edited 7pm Mountain Standard Time.


She has posted another ad up today, I will post the screenshot, because her words are 'better' than mine. The link was posted in the comments, and I think it bears putting up here. 
Here is the link to respond to the ad - sale-tqqhz-1796876220@craigslist.org






horses going to auction buy now! mustangs and kidsafe pony - $500

black mustang papered stud. 14'2hhs 4yrs old green broke. blue roan genes. 400$ obo 
must go asap!!!! 

bay with chrome mare with papers. 14'3hhs 4yrs old? not broke. great mom. 325$ was a rescue. 

will sell together for 500$ 
going to auction the 26th if not bought.           

kid safe pony 
12hhs 13yrs 
bombproof 
autism kids on lead line. 
4-14yrs old individual rides. 
double 
bareback 
English / western 
jumps and drives 

675 FIRM!!!!! 
if not sold by 24th will be kept. 

call 517 499 9790 for more info and day to set up a time to meet and buy! 
bring money please! 
serious buyers please!!! no 10yr old little girls wishing and wanting! 



Does anyone know where this auction is that she's referring to? I mentioned this in the comments, but I can't seem to find any info on google... the only auctions I can find in MI on the 26th are for property and fine art. IF any of you out there can manage to grab these horses before she trailers to whatever auction she's planning on going to, PLEASE by all means do. If they end up going and sell to the KB, then well thats what happens, but since I can't be there to pull them out myself, I'm doin' what I can do. 


______________________________________________________
2nd Update of the night: 


New ad. http://jxn.craigslist.org/grd/1797300917.html  Says now that the mare is gone, and only has the stallion and the pony left with no other horses for sale?


Oh, and its been "confirmed' that the foal lived, was delivered, but is now with a surrogate dam? Emails were sent and were posted in the comments.... 

copying just the email text. 


Reader: Does she come with her foal?? The ad isnt clear. Are you planning on taking her baby from her? Is the foal going to be able to be registered? Is the mare up to date on her shots, has she ever foundered? Thanks, Jennifer
 HER: no foal. no health issues.


Reader: Is she agressive with a foal on her? Is she not a good mom? What are the reasons you will not let her raise her baby?
 HER: shes wild and uncontrolable. and her sack wont fill. and we cant keep her seprete from stud and other horses. the foal is going to a qh mare who lost her foal prematurely. it wil get 1st feedings if twist wil provide.


And now apparently the mare is gone? Or just no longer for sale? I'm *SO* confused!


black 4yr old papers. 14'2hhs greenbroke 200. firm

bay mare no longer for sale.

no other horses for sale. 1 pony for sale

1 horse for lease at our farm.

pony kid safe. 
12hhs
13yrs
600 firm. 

call 517 - 9790
can be veiwed and taken today! bring your trailers.

downsizing to 5 horses





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And UPDATE #3 for the night! I can't go to bed yet, this is insane! 


I'm trying to find, or fix, the link the very last anon posted listed to the ad where the pony went up in value, and came across this: 


http://kalamazoo.craigslist.org/grd/1796742334.html


I *MYSELF* have now become an ad on craigslist! This just cracks me up to NO end. 


I would love to know who posted that on my behalf, can email me directly, no need to out yourself publically, but still would like to thank you personally! 



Wednesday, June 16, 2010

Like She Said, You Can't Ride A Mane!

Turn Heads on the Trail! - $3500

Four year old registered AQHA Palomino gelding. "Peanut" stands 15 hands, has gorgeous long mane, three white stockings and a white star, stripe and snip. He is being offered at a drastically reduced price due to being diagnosed with OCD (Osteochondrosis) in November. OCD is characterized by lesions in the joint that can form in fast growing young horses. Peanut's x-rays show no evidence of cysts or fragments in the joint, only slight flattening on the condoyles of the stifles which is likely to limit his career as a performance horse. Through his training, he has never shown any degree of lameness, but shows slight discomfort trotting off to flexion tests. For this reason, I am offering him for sale as a horse suitable for light riding. I bought Peanut as a long yearling from the breeder and have personally enjoyed every step of his development, while utilizing natural horsemanship methods. Because of the level of training already established, combined with Peanut's laid back nature, I feel confident that even at his age, he will easily step into a career as a recreational trail horse. Peanut has a fun, inquisitive personality, he enjoys people and is confident with it comes trying new things. He has never offered to buck and is great to get back on after lengthy periods of time off. He has a gorgeous long mane, combined with his rich dapple palomino color, he is a real head turner! Although it saddens me to say goodbye, I feel as though a shift in career is in Peanut’s best interest and will lend to his long term soundness and the happiness of someone looking for a special companion.
Click the following link to see a video of Peanut - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j34FvwhsVKw

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O.M.G. 


Where the hell do I start with this one? 


Lets start with the obvious. Osteochondrosis. I have heard of this, but only in passing. Google is our friend, so I search it out. 


The Merek Veterinary Manual online has a page for it. 

Osteochondrosis has a multifactorial etiology that includes rapid growth, overnutrition, mineral imbalance, and biomechanics (ie, trauma to cartilage). Genetics has been implicated in some breeds (eg, Standardbred and Swedish Warmblood). The condition mainly affects articular growth cartilage, but the metaphysis may also be involved. If the physeal metaphyseal cartilage is affected, bone contours and longitudinal growth are disturbed (see physitis, Physitis). Involvement of articular cartilage at the periphery of joint surfaces leads to regressive changes at the joint margins, dissecting lesions, and the formation of flaps (osteochondrosis). Central articular lesions, because of weight-bearing effects, involve focal retention of cartilage within the subchondral bone (see subchondral cysts, Subchondral Cystic Lesions). Axial skeletal involvement includes vertebral articular facets, and this may lead to stenosis of the vertebral canal and, ultimately, ataxia and proprioceptive deficits (ie, wobbler syndrome).


OK. Lots of big words there, huh! I do understand a great deal of it, so lets translate a bit.


Basically the disease has several different origins, which are based in overfeeding, growing way too fast, mineral imbalance (ie, lack of salt), and accidents. Genetics play a part in some breeds, but not others. It affects mostly cartilage, but other leg parts could also be involved. Sometimes the leg bones themselves are affected. 


Oh, this is the important part. IF the outside cartilage of the, say, knee, is affected, the joints get swollen, the spaces between the joint bones get smaller, and things grow where they shouldn't be growing in and on the cartilage. 


If the horse's ribs (for example) are affected, the blood vessels around the spine can shrink greatly, reducing blood flow, and causing all sorts of issues such as dead tissue and oh so fun  side effect diseases such as Wobbler's Syndrome! 


Doesn't this already just sound like a horse you want to spend $3500 on!? 


So, how is it discovered? 


A joint becomes distended (think bog spavin or the like) with little to no pain at the site of the distention. According to Merek, in horses greater than 6 months of age, "Often the first sign noted in foals is a tendency to spend more time lying down. This is accompanied frequently by joint swelling, stiffness, and difficulty keeping up with other animals in the paddock. An accompanying sign may be the development of upright conformation of the limbs, presumably as a result of rapid growth."


Horses of training age often begin to show signs of the disease once starting to be ridden. Hmm, sounds like that happened to our palomino up there!


Sounds like so much fun, doesn't it! 


So, how to treat? Is this horse really ridable?


Well, of course altering diet is mentioned, less food (HUH, Fancy that!), making sure the horse's minerals are balanced correctly, giving HA supplements (hyaluronic acid, found in most good joint supplements), surgery in the most severe cases, and joint injections to reduce swelling, fluid build up, and overall lubrication. 


These legions that form on the joints (the things that grow that shouldn't be there) can grow on any joint from in the hoof all the way up to the shoulder blades. 


Merek however does not mention anything about RIDING these horses at all. Darn. I was hoping for that one. Pain origins of the disease come mostly from shoulder lesions, but in the legs its difficult to pinpoint exactly where it hurts the worst, and lameness can be intermittent, and hard to spot. 


Hmmmm. So we have a horse that is going to be on longggggg term veterinary care. Expensive joint supplements the rest of his life, joint injections every so often, the disease has a probability of spreading, and if treated once, runs the risk of returning. He could be 'ouchie' for the rest of his life. 


And he's FOUR. 


Yea, thats a great mane all right. Still can't ride it!


1) Its absolutely insane for the owner to be asking $3500 for this horse. There is NO way he's ever going to be worth more than $1000 - and thats severely pushing it. The lifetime cost of vet bills this horse is going to rack up will surpass that tens of times. 


2) I'm no vet. I just study a lot of vet books. And I am going to wager a guess that while he might be ok for light, light use for the next few years (Heck, it might even be helpful to keep him moving some), his long term outlook is not so good. Eventually he'll have to be downgraded to pasture puff. Lets hope he gets that owner that cares more about HIM, than the ribbons she can win. 


3) Looks, breeding, and all the money in the world ain't going to cure this guy. He's stuck with this forever. 


4) Finding a 'loving' home for him at this point, while bordering on the scummy side of horse ownership by dumping him on craigslist - will be iffy. Chances are that the person she sells him to will think they can handle the disease, and quickly find out that the cost of the maintenance on this horse will be a LOT more $$$ than they expected. Anyone out there know if this disease requires special shoes or not? Would barefoot be better maybe? I don't know. I know just what Mr. Merek tells me. 


What bothers me is even though she has fully disclosed the diagnosis, she's going about it a bit in the wrong light. He's NOT going to be ok for a light riding horse for the rest of his life - depending on how bad the legions are in his joints, WHERE they are, and the number of them, may or may not mean the end of his riding days ALREADY. 


And Vet opinions differ, as we all know. One Vet might say go ahead and saddle him up for 30 minutes 2-3 times a week. Another might say hand walking only. Yet a third could say Nope, Sorry, Pasture Puff ONLY. 


Who'd want to ride a horse with Wobbler's or Degenerative Disk Disease anyways? Seems to me that would just be putting the horse under more stress and pain that is necessary. 


If this lady wants another horse to go get ribbons in, there's certainly nothing stopping her from doing that. However, asking $3500? As a friend has said on here, "Step away from the crack pipe" (or something very close to that :D ). 

Thanks Sue!

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I normally don't post stuff like this but If requested I certainly will. 


A local horse woman I have not yet met, but have spoken to many times via email included me in an email she sent out earlier today. 


"Please pass this on to all horse owners in Arizona you know.  Perhaps someone has seen her.  I have also heard that she may have had pink saddlebags on the saddle as well."



Attached is the picture of Trixie, my 10 year old paint mare.  She was last seen at Payoff Springs, trail 384, at Groom Creek on Sunday, June 13th at about noon.  She had on a new Hilason full leather saddle, bridle, blue rope halter with green lead rope, and a hornbag.  I appreciate any help you can offer, and if you need anything else from me, please call.  Please forward this as you feel appropriate.
Thanks,
Karen Leonard
623-693-8907



Those of you that live in the 4 corner states, please pay particular attention to her, if you show and frequently go to horsey events. From here in Phoenix it literally takes just 8 hours to get to the 4 corner area if you don't stop for any length of time. In the 3 days since this mare was stolen, she very easily could have been moved into Colorado, Utah, New Mexico, Mexico (shudder), California, or Nevada. Even Texas is a 2 day drive to most parts. 


I KNOW most of you that read this blog don't post, and aren't listed as followers. Totally cool by me. But if you DO read on a semi-regular basis, if you could PLEASE maybe print out her picture, with the email in Blue from her upset, distraught, worried, freaked out MOM, and just hang it in your tack room? That's not too much to ask, is it? If it were my horse that was taken like that, I would want her picture on every single tack room wall in the entire nation. I think most of you would feel the same, yes? 

Tuesday, June 15, 2010

I NEED A Husband! No, Wait, Stallion!

A few days ago a woman in Ohio was arrested because she called 911 three times looking for a husband. Apparently not only were the cops supposed to find her one, but she wasn't picky about it - any man would do. (She was also intoxicated at the time of the calls / arrest.)


I giggled like mad when I heard about the story because as I sit here now, I am listening to a live internet feed of the Phoenix Police Department's Dispatchers talking to Officers in the field. Quite interesting stuff, really. 


The story about the woman above is immediately what I thought about when I was looking through my 'ad stash' deciding what to post up next. Then, while deciding, I checked out the fuglyblog.com, and saw that she had the very ad I was going to post up for tomorrow sent to me by one of you! *go figure.*


I don't want to be accused of being a copy cat, so unfortunately, had to switch ads. 



I have a quarter horse mare that I would like to breed. She is about 15-15.1 hands, looking for stallion 14-15 hands. Looking for Quarter horse or pony, paint, appaloosa or ? Can spend $250.00 plus mare care. Let me know what you have and please send pics. Thank you! 

"I need a HUSBAAANNNNDDDDD.........."

Except in this case its "I need a stallyion!". 

A whole $250, huh? That'll get you some quality sperm right there!

But hey, just like our desperate chick, Mrs. Mare owner isn't very picky. A Quarter Horse, Paint, Pony, Appy - oh hell, all it needs is some balls!

"The Alliance Police Department is not a dating service despite one woman's belief," the post reads. "Audrey K. Scott called 911 five times yesterday between 4-5 p.m., and what was her emergency ... 'she needed a husband.' Scott was arrested for misuse of the 911 system. Remember that 911 is for emergencies only!! Lives depend on it."

As does the life of the future foal that this idiot mare owner wants to create. 

I'm off to bed. Tomorrow is my 'monday'. Bleh. 

Monday, June 14, 2010

Monday Madness: Complete FAIL.

I think Monday Madness should just be renamed "Lets Ride A Baby Monday." Seriously. 


I have shown you some pretty messed up pictures of what parents think is 'Ok' when it comes to their children riding 'family horses'. 


However, today what I have just blows anything else out of the water in terms of a complete and total Parenting FAIL. 




This is a four year old pony stallion that the girl is 'riding'. 


Shall we go there? 


Yup. 


Let's go over AGAIN why this is a Parenting FAIL, shall we? Just because I don't think the message is getting out there. 


1) No helmet? CHECK!
2)Saddle 653657534321 times too big for the horse AND rider? CHECK!
3)No boots? CHECK!
4)Total lack of any seat whatsoever on the girl? CHECK!
5)Feet barely reaching the stirrups and heels touching the sky? CHECK CHECK CHECK CHECK!


I have a 4 year old solid black stud pony has one white sock and a small white star on his forehead kids ride him all over we r asking 150.00 or best offer can call 417---6585. 


Why do people think its ok for their kids to do this? Are parents that out of touch with the basics of SAFETY that they actually look at this picture and think its OK? 


At least its a 4 year old right? Right?




Thats NOT a four year old. If you look very closely at the two pictures, you'll see its the same saddle pad. 


This one is a YEARLING. Of course, right? 


I have a 1 year old stud colt he's half paint half fox trotter has been under saddle and is halter and lead rope trained asking 100.00 obo call 417---1806 ask for Dusty 




Dusty - YOU FAIL. YOU FAIL. FAIL so hard that I don't think I could come up with another example that FAILS harder than this. 


Thanks Corky for these.